Comments on: After a bit of disappointing information… Time to grow up! http://www.agilecmmi.com/index.php/2009/11/after-a-bit-of-disappointing-information-time-to-grow-up/ A starting point for a discussion on marrying Agile methods and CMMI. Mon, 05 Nov 2012 23:10:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Hillel http://www.agilecmmi.com/index.php/2009/11/after-a-bit-of-disappointing-information-time-to-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-48 Hillel Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:55:03 +0000 http://www.agilecmmi.com/index.php/2009/11/after-a-bit-of-disappointing-information-time-to-grow-up/#comment-48 Yup, Rodney, you've got it!  Many organizations forget that talk is <i>cheap</i> and <i>actions</i> speak louder than words.  I know where the motivation for improvement falls into executives' priorities list and it's usually <b><i>not</i></b> first.<br /><br />Unfortunately, these same companies are caught between delivery, sales, current customer demands and other pressures and intellectually they usually <i>know</i> they need improvements but <i>knowing</i> they need to improve is not enough to make them want to invest in doing so.<br /><br />It's always the same analogy: want to lose weight?  Give up the fries dipped in chocolate and get on the treadmill!  There's a HUGE GULF between knowing that's what you need to do and getting off your duff and doing it!<br /><br />Good luck in Singapore!  Safe journeys! Yup, Rodney, you've got it!  Many organizations forget that talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words.  I know where the motivation for improvement falls into executives' priorities list and it's usually not first.

Unfortunately, these same companies are caught between delivery, sales, current customer demands and other pressures and intellectually they usually know they need improvements but knowing they need to improve is not enough to make them want to invest in doing so.

It's always the same analogy: want to lose weight?  Give up the fries dipped in chocolate and get on the treadmill!  There's a HUGE GULF between knowing that's what you need to do and getting off your duff and doing it!

Good luck in Singapore!  Safe journeys!

]]> By: Rodney http://www.agilecmmi.com/index.php/2009/11/after-a-bit-of-disappointing-information-time-to-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Rodney Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:53:23 +0000 http://www.agilecmmi.com/index.php/2009/11/after-a-bit-of-disappointing-information-time-to-grow-up/#comment-47 Hi, I found your blog as I am keen on learning how to marriage Agile and CMMi. I've worked in companies where they used one or the other. I personally always believed this is possible. As I will soon be a manager at a company who is trying to adopt both methodologies, I found this blog, while "googling" for info. This particular post really hit home!<br /><br />You described my last company perfectly. I'm an American guy with 20 yrs of software development, technical project management, and top mangement experience. I joined a major Indonesian company (the 2nd largest in their particular industry) with the idea of bringing their IT dept into the 21st century. I was excited, the pay was great (even by USA standards) and I was ready!<br /><br />I quickly learned of the concepts of "rubber time" and how people like to take mental siestas, albeit while actually being awake. If one has a 2PM meeting, I expect people to be sitting at the table and ready to begin at 2PM! These people dont even leave their desks until 2:05, then go to the toilet, get a bottle water, and stroll in around 2:20. I thought I was in the wrong meeting room sometimes!<br /><br />I know your frustration my friend, and I feel for you: some companies realize they need a change, they are losing market share, and they have major internal issues (corruption, disgruntled employees, you name it...). <br /><br />Yet, the company is not ready for change. They feel dreaming is the same as doing. Well, I'm about to head to Singapore: let's keep our fingers crossed for me! Hi, I found your blog as I am keen on learning how to marriage Agile and CMMi. I've worked in companies where they used one or the other. I personally always believed this is possible. As I will soon be a manager at a company who is trying to adopt both methodologies, I found this blog, while "googling" for info. This particular post really hit home!

You described my last company perfectly. I'm an American guy with 20 yrs of software development, technical project management, and top mangement experience. I joined a major Indonesian company (the 2nd largest in their particular industry) with the idea of bringing their IT dept into the 21st century. I was excited, the pay was great (even by USA standards) and I was ready!

I quickly learned of the concepts of "rubber time" and how people like to take mental siestas, albeit while actually being awake. If one has a 2PM meeting, I expect people to be sitting at the table and ready to begin at 2PM! These people dont even leave their desks until 2:05, then go to the toilet, get a bottle water, and stroll in around 2:20. I thought I was in the wrong meeting room sometimes!

I know your frustration my friend, and I feel for you: some companies realize they need a change, they are losing market share, and they have major internal issues (corruption, disgruntled employees, you name it…).

Yet, the company is not ready for change. They feel dreaming is the same as doing. Well, I'm about to head to Singapore: let's keep our fingers crossed for me!

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